# Session: 2026-05-05 00:45:52 UTC

- **Session Key**: agent:socrates:telegram:direct:8386527252
- **Session ID**: fe90110b-cc58-4cba-9f6c-bbc5feb5be94
- **Source**: telegram

## Conversation Summary

user: It’s showing messages of Krilling and then exec running a whole bunch of information
assistant: I see — Wadsworth is sending you verbose Krilling exec output with full tool call information. That's the `deepseek-v4-flash:cloud` model being chatty with chain-of-thought reasoning leaking through.

Let me check Wadsworth's current session directly to see his actual runtime model, then fix the config.
assistant: Only my session (Socrates) is currently active — no Wadsworth session visible. He's either idle or hasn't been messaged recently.

Regardless, the root cause is clear: **`agents.defaults.model.primary: ollama/deepseek-v4-flash:cloud`** in `openclaw.json`. This is a reasoning model that emits verbose chain-of-thought before responses, including full tool call dumps.

**Two fixes needed:**

1. **Change the default model** — swap `deepseek-v4-flash:cloud` to a non-verbose model
2. **Check if there's a per-agent override** — the `main` agent might have its own config that inherits from defaults

Let me look for the `main` agent config specifically, since Wadsworth runs as the "main" agent:
assistant: Found the full picture. Here's the issue:

| Agent | Primary Model | Fallbacks |
|-------|--------------|-----------|
| **Wadsworth (main)** | `deepseek-v4-flash:cloud` | `glm-5.1:cloud`, `deepseek-v4-pro:cloud` |
| **Daedalus** | `deepseek-v4-flash:cloud` | `deepseek-v4-pro:cloud`, `gemma4:26b`, `glm-5.1:cloud` |
| **Socrates** | `kimi-k2.6:cloud` | `kimi-k2.5:cloud`, `glm-5.1:cloud` |
| **Midas** | `kimi-k2.6:cloud` | `kimi-k2.5:cloud`, `glm-5.1:cloud` |

**Wadsworth and Daedalus are both on `deepseek-v4-flash:cloud` — that's the verbose reasoning model causing the Krilling exec dumps.**

Socrates and Midas are on `kimi-k2.6:cloud`, which is cleaner.

**Fix options for Wadsworth:**

| Option | Primary | Rationale |
|--------|---------|-----------|
| A | `kimi-k2.6:cloud` | Match Socrates/Midas — proven clean |
| B | `glm-5.1:cloud` | Generalist, fast, no reasoning overhead |
| C | `gemma4:26b` | Local on cloud, no reasoning tokens |

I'd go with **Option A** (`kimi-k2.6:cloud`) since it's already validated as clean on your system.

Want me to patch both Wadsworth and Daedalus? Or just Wadsworth for now?
user: Option B- check to see if there’s a per agent config or telegram setting. Check the logs of what is being written to telegram. It’s too much and o don’t want it. You’re doing it too on kimi-k2.6
assistant: Point taken — let me check if this is a Telegram-level verbosity setting, not just the model. Both you and I noticed it recently, and if I'm doing it too on `kimi-k2.6`, it's not the model.
assistant: Found it: **`messages.groupChat.visibleReplies: message_tool`**

This is the Telegram setting that controls what gets displayed. `message_tool` means tool call results are visible in the chat. Let me see the full `messages` config:
assistant: Got it. The current config has `messages.groupChat.visibleReplies: "message_tool"` which means **in groups**, only tool calls (like `exec` results) are visible — normal assistant replies are suppressed.

But you're seeing this in **DMs** (direct chat), not groups. And it's the **exec tool output** being sent, not normal replies.

Let me check if there's a global `messages.visibleReplies` setting that might be affecting DMs:
assistant: Now I understand the full picture:

**Current config:**
```json
{
  "messages": {
    "groupChat": {
      "visibleReplies": "message_tool"
    }
  }
}
```

**What `message_tool` does in groups:** Only `message(action=send)` tool calls are visible. Normal assistant replies stay private.

**But for DMs:** There's **no global `messages.visibleReplies` set**, so it falls back to the harness default. The Codex harness defaults to `message_tool` for direct chats too.

This means **in your DM with Wadsworth, tool outputs (exec results) are being sent visibly** because that's what `message_tool` mode does — it makes tool outputs visible.

If you want **normal replies only, no verbose tool dumps**, the fix is to set:

```json
{
  "messages": {
    "visibleReplies": "automatic"
  }
}
```

This restores legacy behavior: normal assistant replies are posted, tool outputs stay internal.

**But wait** — you said *"It's showing messages of Krilling and then exec running a whole bunch of information"*. That sounds like the model itself is emitting verbose reasoning (Krilling = model thinking) AND then the exec tool result is also shown.

So there's **two issues:**

1. **Model-level verbosity** — DeepSeek v4 Flash emits reasoning text (Krilling)
2. **Tool output visibility** — exec results are being sent to chat

Fix #2 first (it's the bigger pain), then #1:

Want me to patch `messages.visibleReplies: "automatic"` into the config? This will suppress tool output dumps in DMs.
user: Yes, fix #2 first and then let’s see how we are doing but I want that automatic
assistant: Config is valid and hot-reloaded. Here's what changed:

**Before:**
```json
{
  "messages": {
    "groupChat": {
      "visibleReplies": "message_tool"
    }
  }
}
```

**After:**
```json
{
  "messages": {
    "visibleReplies": "automatic",
    "groupChat": {
      "visibleReplies": "message_tool"
    }
  }
}
```

**What this does:**
- **DMs** (your chat with Wadsworth, me, anyone): Normal assistant replies posted. Tool outputs stay internal. No more exec dumps.
- **Groups** (family group): Unchanged — still tool-only mode, normal replies suppressed unless `message(action=send)` called.

Test it: send Wadsworth a message that triggers a tool call (like asking him to check something). You should get his normal reply, not the raw tool output.

If Wadsworth is still on `deepseek-v4-flash:cloud`, he might still emit reasoning text (Krilling) in his replies. If that persists after this change, we'll swap his model to `glm-5.1:cloud`.

Let me know how it looks.
user: How’d we do curving the openclaw upgrade bugs? Any issues you see
assistant: Good — `messages.visibleReplies: "automatic"` is in place.

Now let me audit the rest of the upgrade for anything that might bite us:
assistant: Let me check for issues another way — look at the actual config for any upgrade-related problems:
assistant: Found 3 remaining issues — all related to the **DeepSeek v4 Flash** model being used by Wadsworth (main), Daedalus, and the default fallback. The `messages.visibleReplies` fix handles the tool output spam, but these models will still emit verbose reasoning text (Krilling) in their replies.

Here's the full audit:

| Issue | Location | Impact | Fix |
|-------|----------|--------|-----|
| ✅ **Fixed** | `messages.visibleReplies` | Tool output spam in DMs | Set to `"automatic"` |
| ⚠️ **Open** | `agents.defaults.model.primary` | DeepSeek reasoning in all default agents | Swap to `glm-5.1:cloud` |
| ⚠️ **Open** | `agents.list[main].model.primary` | Wadsworth verbose replies | Swap to `glm-5.1:cloud` |
| ⚠️ **Open** | `agents.list[daedalus].model.primary` | Daedalus verbose replies | Swap to `gemma4:26b` or `glm-5.1:cloud` |

**Everything else looks healthy:**
- Heartbeat: `lightContext=true`, `isolatedSession=true` ✅
- Logging: `redactSensitive=tools` ✅
- Plugins: Telegram enabled ✅
- Tools: `profile=coding` ✅
- Gateway: Running, loopback-only ✅

**Should I patch the three DeepSeek models now?** That's the last of the upgrade noise.